Cool shots, what is super lod?

I like the roads and stuff :).

I think it would be much better, if you used more detailed textures for the ground =).

Good Work! Keep it up!

Those particles could look better and the ground looks a bit too blurry and in one of the images textures don't tile right but I think these are little faults will naturally be taken care of.
Really cool IOTD in overall.

As Sebastian Sylvan suggested to include Ak5 in your game I will also add my contribution. Though I think it should be obvious for every finnish guy that a war game should have the ability to choose legendary "suomi-konepistooli" aka. KP/-31 submachine gun as a weapon, I really needed to remind you. Also here is a link if anyone is interested why this gun is so legendary (It was/is propably (one of) the best submachine guns in the world, and Suomi in that name means Finland ofcourse :) click here to know more about KP/-31".

There was a very nice article in the July issue of Game Developer Mag on realistic lighting of terrain. I would highly suggest checking it out for a game such as this. I've been playing with the algorithm a bit, maybe I'll post a IOTD when I get some time to make it pretty :)

>Wow, finally a game where you get to blast away with trusty old 7.62 >RK 62 =) (though I got sick and tired of cleaning one during my time >in the army, like probably most finnish guys hence the mandatory >army

Likewise.. but I didn't post to just write "metoo", I was wondering when the first Sweden vs. Finland -MOD comes for this (game)engine. ;-)

Another finnish MP which would be nice to see, even if it's not in military use and generally illegal to acquire in Finland is the gun designed by gunsmith Mr.Löppönen, I'm ofcourse talking about the Jati-Matic ( famous from films like Red Draw, Cobra, LOL, etc. ;-)

Chinese make and sell pirate copies of Jati-Matic and the original designer (afaik) doesn't get a dime. Ohwell.

You are so incredibly gay!

The describtion doesnt fit! That an alien marine with flurescent blood, look how its light up!

Funny sig :)

Its exactly what the description says, they just don't have a good particle model for blood (I would recommend smaller particles). You shouldn't be so negative, especially to someone with the experience Warren has, he might actually be able to help you someday with whatever coding issues you have.

-Mike Taylor

How did you do the road? Is it only able to be on flat surfaces?

I love the trees. :)

How about adding grass?

"he might actually be able to help you someday with whatever coding issues you have."

The problem is, I'm so incredibly gay. :)

Hmmm...
Needs a detail texture.
The road is sweet ! The level is that pic looks a little boxy. :-)
The blood...well...the particles need to (a)smaller and (b)much darker. And there needs to be less of it.
The trees look verra nice, as do the tents.
So do the gun models and the human model.
There should be more rocks and they some should look like they are sticking out of places in the ground. But thats a level deal, and not connected with the engine.
You might cut down on fog on clear days.
You should start the fog at about 50 miles out...thats what...like 120 kms ???
I dont know how the air in Finland is, but around here in the Rocky Mts of Idaho you can see a looong way out with no 'fog' effect at all on a clear day.
Only on cloudy days should fog kick in, and then rarly and it should be at like between 20-100 yards (20-90 m ???) out.
Under trees fog should be farther away.
I really hate unrealistic fog.

The Homeworld games have it, and they are outer space games *shudders*
So does High Impact Paintball(dont get it!)
The UT tunnel level with the green fog is fairly good though.

Sorry for ranting..I just hate bad fogging.

The engine does need work, but is very nice
I just might play it when done. :-)

~V'lion

You got him there, Warren.. LOL

nice to know our forum isn't being used by large companies to subtly advertise their products! :)

Why, as I was drinking jolt, (my favourite cola) and relaxing back with a slice of healthy Pizza Hut pizza, I made a note in my ever impressive, Palm V about how nice it is that the internet isn't filled with subliminal advertising.... :)

The fogging on these shots looks fine to me. It looks exactly like what it really is here in Finland, or atleast how it looked like all those days in the woods when i was in the army.

Don't let feature creep hit you! Of course it would be nice to
do all kinds of stuff like command tanks or read a virtual version
of "tuntematon sotilas" while playing it, but hopefully you'll
only add features that are important to the game.

I'd rather see a small finished game than a massive one that is
never finished. Also if it's small it'll be easier to balance and
if you made it extensible you can always add more features to
future versions.

Please note that my favorite games include such as Joust and Galaga
so maybe I'm not up to date how massive games need to be today to
be popular :).

You are the people taking everything to serious :) I was just referring to the XOR encryption(the key was "warren marshall is gay").

you're funny
FYI, I don't work for Codemasters, I have my own projects.
The reason I mentioned what I did is because of the similarities between the 2 engines, only one is already being used in a game, while the other is in development. The message is not subliminal the message is that he should look at the game and improve upon it, also he should look at the features in the game and decide if he would like to use them.
So in English, my intention is to help the poster and not advertise for codemasters, and if such indirect advertising happened then maybe codemasters developed a good game, worth checking out ;-) j/k

I know dude!

It's actually a good suggestion. Good luck with your projects!

looks like Deer Hunter & co.
Definitly some more fog, water etc. could be added to the images.
Very nice work, once again scandinavians prove that they have
(traditionally) very good coders.

Our website is now open at www.wiredman.net.

Unfortunately they are still in finnish only, but I'm working on the english pages and they'll propably be online later this week.

These pictures are still from an early version, and many things are still just temporary.
The particles are still very red, we know. That's because this way it's easier to see how they move and therefore it's easier to configure them. When they animate the way we want them to, we will make them look more realistic. So don't worry :)

The land-textures and their mipmaps aren't final yet and the fog still needs tweaking too. But anyway, the engine's starting to look the way we want it to and soon we can start conscentrating on the multiplayer-code, buildings with their interiors and AI.

People have been asking many questions about our game engine and it's possibilities. The engine is actually quite powerful and when it's done, it can handle almost any kind of environment.
Currently we are implementing buildings and city structure to the engine, and after that almost anything is possible. We'll also include a hi-resolution texture option for those who have the high-end machines.
A broad FAQ will be reliesed on our website along with the english pages, so stay tuned.

The engine can also handle MODs. We are planning of making a Vietnam War -mod ourselves once Jääkäri is finished. But more of that later.

First we imagined only finnish people would be interested in this game, but we are happy to discover that other people are enthusiastic as well.

Mikko Monto
The WiredMan development team

The Suomi smg is pretty much out of the question as the game is set in the modern times and that venerable weapon was removed from the arsenal of the Finnish army decades ago. The RK62, also depicted in the pics above, is the current standard weapon of the Finnish infantry.

Of course, if and when Jääkäri is finished there will very probably appear a WW2 mod soon after - and in that the Suomi smg is indeed a must-have.

Just as an aside, a couple of notes on the word "jääkäri":

Ethymologically, it is derived from the German "Jäger" which means 'hunter'. However, that is not a good traslation in itself because in Finnish the word "jääkäri" has nothing to do with hunting.

In the Finnish military terminology "jääkäri"
a) is the lowest rank in the infantry. ('Private' in English, I believe?)
b) is in colloquial speech used as a substitute for "soldier" or "infantry man", like "Minä olen vain tavallinen jääkäri", 'I'm just a common soldier.'
c) means 'heavy infantry' in unit designations, such as "jääkäripataljoona" or "jääkäriprikaati" ('heavy infantry batallion' or 'heavy infantry brigade'). Jääkäri units have more, better, and heavier equipment than ordinary infantry units.
d) is used as a part of some service branch names, for example "laskuvarjojääkäri", literally 'parachute jääkäri', i.e. airborne ranger.

How should it be translated for the game title, then? As far as I understand, the word 'ranger' would cover the points c) and d) above fairly well, but actually I believe the guys at Wiredman have primarily had the a) and b) meanings of the word in mind. (I don't claim to know, just guessing here...)

So, my grand suggestion for the translation would be... Soldier.

Simple, effective, probably hard to trademark, though. ;-) As a matter of fact, the title should probably not be traslated at all.

"Grunt" - the colloquial term for the low ranking infantry man. It fits the first three definitions you mentioned.

In german, Jäger has two meanings: one is for hunter, the other one for a military rank so the finish 'jääkäri' was propably borrowed from the military rank, not from the hunter.

Yes, the term "jääkäri" is borrowed from the military term. Reason for this (I think) is that the finnish army is actually (historically) based on the german military traditions and training. And finland and germany have always been kind of "soul mates" in certain things :)

I think that the "grunt" is a good but not complete translation of the word "jääkäri". The word "jääkäri" is most certainly used in the same meaning as the "grunt" ("I'm just a grunt" etc), but it is also an official term used in the military, like a "private" (?) or "trooper" in english.

I think the best (although inadequate) translation would be "ranger" or "trooper" etc. But for a title for the game "Grunt" is ok :)