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Submitted by Franta Fulin, posted on August 27, 2000




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I've seen some cool things on the IOTD, so I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring....

Here are some screenshots of my Winamp plugin (currently v0.8b). I use OpenGL 3d accelaration to create a few tunnel effects and various spinning things which are randomly combined and blended in various different modes in time with the music. I have a dancer which also morphs between various shapes also in time with the music.

It runs in various resolutions/modes (user selectable) or in a window. It works with Windows 95,98,2000 and even ME (Millenium).

The plugin (about 100k zipped) can be downloaded from my web page. http://www.arcomnet.net.au/~ffulin

I think it looks fairly cool in action, even though its not finished yet - although I am a little biased ... :)

I hope I can get some feedback/suggestions/complements/questions/criticisms/compatibility verifications....

The random combination of effects means there is a lot of variety even in this non-final version. I plan to implement more effects and animations before the final release so that it will be able to run for hours with little or no repetition....

Email: f.fulin@arcom.com.au


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Jonas Risbrandt

August 27, 2000, 02:02 PM

Cool. Looks like the old amiga demo "State of the art" by spaceballs. But a this looks a lot better :)

 
iCodeSuk

August 27, 2000, 02:36 PM

This is a cool demo, but I have to say that the demo "State of the art" was a lot more detailed in terms of the actual female outline.

 
Steve 'Sly' Williams

August 27, 2000, 08:35 PM

spaceball's State Of The Art demo still kicks ass even by today's standards. While I have yet to see your plugin in action, add some more vertices to that outline and it will approach State Of The Art.

 
Jeroen B

August 27, 2000, 09:01 PM

Somehow I get only about 1 fps on an Athlon 750 with a G400 video-card. The plugin says my GL-driver does not support"WGL_EXT_swap_control". Has this got something to do with it?

For anyone interested, I still have the mods of both Spaceballs demos featuring the dancers on a CD somewhere. They're among the coolest mods ever released I think.

Jeroen

 
Tim Auld

August 27, 2000, 09:59 PM

Nice work Franta :)

Maybe it's time to put away the grid paper and fire up MAX? ;)

Tim

 
Franta Fulin

August 27, 2000, 10:14 PM

To answer:
* it is heavily influenced by 'State of the Art' - one of the finest demos ever made on the greatest computer ever made - the Amiga! When the plugin is finished, I want it to have the feel of a lot of the old Amiga demos with the effects it uses. I am glad ppl spotted the likeness to State of the Art - meaning the memory of this cool demo lives on... :)
* The woman does need more vertices, but at the moment I have mapped them all out by hand using a plain sheet of paper, a pen, a ruler and approximation - this is why the hands especially look a bit crusty. I am working on a better way to get some nice animations - any ideas?
* The WGL_EXT_swap_control is only required if the 'Disable VSync' option is selected (enabled by default). Basically this stops OpenGL from waiting for the VSync before page swapping - so that my framerate is not tied to your refresh rate - it seems to look better when it goes flat out rather than trying to synce to 60fps or 70fps - I am surprised the G400 drivers dont support this extension.... hrm.

 
Timothy Barnes

August 27, 2000, 11:49 PM

Awesome. Something different is always nice. I like things that look weird like that.

 
Chris McGuire

August 28, 2000, 12:41 AM

Umm, yeah I get that swap error message too, and I also get 2fps on a P3-600 with a voodoo3.

So ... what's goin' on? :P

Other than that, looks cool. One note - although I don't know anything about winamp plugins, can you sync
it a bit to the music? I just rooted around for a test mp3 to play and it happened to be a really soft ballad (Uni
computer, so it wasn't mine ... it was in Chinese!) That didn't really fit in with your plug-in. Anyway ...

Chris :)

 
Franta Fulin

August 28, 2000, 01:01 AM

The plugin is synced to the music, but relies on bass. Basically techno and dance music is best for this plugin.

I can't understand why it would run so slow on a G400 or Voodoo 3? As you can see from the screen shots, I get about 100fps (depending on the effects hapenning at the time). It must be doing software rendering or something for the ppl who get a very slow frame rate.

Just out of interest, my config is a Celeron 450/TNT2 32mb/128mb Ram/Windows ME... worked ok with 98SE as well tho... My work PC is only a 233/64mb/TNT2 32mb Win2000 and it runs about 80fps no problems either.

I think i will have to get hold of some other video cards and do some research....

Did you guys try full screen modes as well?

BTW - The WGL_EXT_swap_control is not so much an error as it is information about an unsupported feature. The plugin doesnt require it to function.

Anyway.... lots of stuff to do for v0.9beta.... B)

 
Phil Carlisle

August 28, 2000, 01:33 PM

Hehe.. Amiga-ga-ga-ga!

When they did Full Contact, the guys here (Ricoh and Andreas) did a similar overlay thing for a character doing martial arts moves (for the intro, best bit of the game).

From what I was told, they used some form of video overlay program to play frames of an animation, and Ricoh plotted the points of the guy over the top. I am sure there is a cheesy video program you could get points from, or play a avi a frame at a time and write a little mouse capture program that detects mouse clicks when you press a specific key (or records mouse positions when both buttons are down or whatever).

Hhehe..

Phil.

 
Bemmu Sepponen

August 29, 2000, 03:43 AM

I'm surprised how many people here noticed the similarity with State of the Art, I thought I'd be the only one!
This will be the first visualization plugin I'll install to my Winamp, at least when the plugin has better looking
dancing figures than now. Should be made by using actual videos of dancers to get the outlines good.

 
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