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mihaidmc

April 21, 2005, 06:38 AM

is this possible ? :) Can I compile and link my own games with it and pay no tribute to the Great Gods ? Is there some hidden glitch ? In the EULA it says that the license is for demonstration, developing and debugging only... What does that mean ?

 
L.e.Denninger

April 21, 2005, 07:49 AM

>In the EULA it says that the license is for demonstration, developing and
>debugging only

Well, I assume you *are* going to be *developing* on it, right ?

 
Chris

April 21, 2005, 11:07 AM

What else did you expect ? They're not goiing to entitle you to resell it :-)

 
Ivan Kolev

April 21, 2005, 02:45 PM

You can develop commercial software with it. There's just a small detail - they only give you the static runtime libraries, not the dynamic. Basically, this means that your project should be just one big EXE, coz if you separate it into DLL's each DLL will have it's own copy of the runtime library, which is a bad idea.

 
adrian1

May 19, 2005, 09:28 AM

This is free and a good one.
http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html

 
Wernaeh

May 19, 2005, 10:16 AM

On a shorter note: You can get around that limitation by exporting all functions that care which CRT they are inside from one of your dlls. Mainly, these are memory management functions, since each CRT copy has its own heap.

The only problem remaining is the increased size for a CRT copy in each DLL.

Cheers,
- Wernaeh

 
Chris

May 19, 2005, 01:06 PM

And I find this combo very usable, plus it looks&feels the same under both Windows and Linux.

http://www.eclipse.org
http://www.mingw.org

 
Axel

May 19, 2005, 03:18 PM

I thought Eclipse CDT is horribly unstable?

 
damon

May 27, 2005, 10:50 AM

Just stumbled over Code::Blocks the other day and thought I'd post something in reply to Eclipse :)

This is, how can I say, the coolest IDE that I've seen for a while. It will run both with VC 2003 and mingw (and also with Borland and Mars). Althought they have titled it "beta 1" at the present time, it looks very mature. The interface is nice, and it features everything you need, really, including Workspaces and projects with multiple build targets, each separately configurable, custom tool inclusion, and plugin support.

Project home is there: http://www.codeblocks.org

 
Chris

May 27, 2005, 01:31 PM

Eclipse 3.1 works nice for me, no unstability so far. Java eats a lot of memory, of course. But VC.NET does so on occassion, too.

 
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